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Saturday, April 26, 2014

A member of your Team has been captured - now what?


Your Team is out on a caper, delivering hearty doses of Fuck You and free back-fists to Commies down near the Piggly-Wiggly, where Red Team has HQ near the bread lines.  Red Team suddenly gets reinforced and your guys have to beat feet back to the bat cave.  With a head count you realize Bubba didn't make it.  One of your guys confirms Bubba didn't catch a face full of M4 bad luck, but he did get his arse knocked the F out and hog-tied in a Red Team van.

Bubba's a good ol' boy.  His wife is a peach and makes great cobbler.  His curtain-climbers are cute as hell.  Everyone likes Bubba.  Your Intel guys don't know where the Red Team executive conference room is located - the one with the torches and ballpeen hammers.  So a rescue isn't happening.

Bubba knows who you are, where you are, where your hidey-holes are at, who your informants are, and other sundry details.  WTF do you do?  Bubba won't talk.  Bubba's a good guy.  You've known him since grade school.  Your wife is his cousin.

Patriots, in this scenario it will be time for Hard Things and to recognize a few Hard Truths.  Bubba loves you as his brothers.  He is built like a bull and hates Commies.  Your Team compartmentalized, but Bubba is one of the guys who knows about more compartments than most.

Bubba is going to tell everything he knows.  You'd better count on it.  The Regime will very rarely need the blow torches and brick chisels.  Regime players have tremendous experience in using leverage against Americans to earn capitulation.  Most guys take plea deals when they catch a case, and Feds don't need telephone books or rubber hoses to make it happen.

"Bubba," they will say, "tell us what we want to know and we won't burn your house down while your wife and children are sleeping.  Gabe's in the next room and he hasn't burned anyone alive in days - he's itchy.  He's got a new cocksucker partner named Raconteur, and they really love raping dogs and eating babies before they burn everyone alive."

Be honest - how much are you willing to gamble that the Regime
will not go this far on you or your loved ones? 
Just so you know - if you ever find me like this,
please give me a quart of morphine and let me go...
Play as many Rambo fantasies as you wish in your head.  Most men are going to give up their brothers to save their wives and children.  Just own it and plan accordingly.  I suspect many guys who have been in the desert at Bunkerville will face such challenges in coming months.  You do know how many felonies each and every person in the desert can face, yes?  I promise you the Regime can earn indictments for every single person who was on the ground worth decades of Federal prison time.

Here is my two cents on being captured or dealing with the capture of an ally who can burn you.

Pre-1) Do not get captured.  Do whatever it takes.

1) You simply must assume you have been compromised and the Regime will come for you.  They will not hesitate to come for you when you are with your family, to Cluster Foxtrot any serious plans you may have about fighting back.

2) You and your Team should have protocols in place to go ghost.  At the moment it becomes necessary, you and every member of your family simply drops everything and walks away.  You have plans on where to muster, and when.  Every plan should be its own compartment - Bubba should not know how/where your family intends to drop out of sight.

3) Perhaps your Team intends to re-group at some point.  If so, assume this has probably been compromised.  Approach any pre-planned muster with that knowledge. 

4) If Bubba knows the rest of the Team will collect his wife and kids and help them survive, he'll hold out just a little bit longer.  But everyone on the Team must KNOW the Team will carry-through and have everyone's back.

5) If you are captured - take every precaution to delay how quickly they can identify you.  Attempt to escape at every opportunity.  Make your own opportunities.  Accept that you are probably going to die very soon.  Your goal during questioning is not to keep secrets.  You will break.  You may break when they threaten your wife or kids.  You may not break until they threaten your beloved cockatoo.  You may even hold out until they do start cooking little piggies with a torch while still attached to your feet.  But you will break.

Your goal is to delay.  Delay as long as you can.  Give your Team and your family as much lead time as possible.  You will probably have to accept this as a victory - because going back home and resuming the life you had yesterday is not going to happen.  Take whatever win you can get before you die. 

Yeah - this is the world in which we live now.

Kerodin
III

24 comments:

  1. I did Air Force survival training for air crews. Last day was POW training. The one cold hard fact that I learned from just a "pretend" POW experience is that you do NOT want to be captured under ANY circumstances.

    VJ

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    1. Roger that. No good can come from it - better to fight to the death, in my opinion.

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  2. Obviously, this team will not do anything if you are captured.

    Rumor of Drone Strike at Bundy Ranch Sends Oath Keepers Packing

    http://www.fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/rumor-of-drone-strike-at-bundy-ranch-sends-oath-keepers-packing/86049#comments

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    1. Any verification OKs are running?

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    2. Yes, it's in the audio conversation with stewie at the site address listed in my above post. The quality of some of the conversation is shitty, but it is a conversation between Chuck Smith(smithfixblog.com) stewie and one of his lapdogs.

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    3. Michele - any reliable reports regarding how many OathKeepers/Militia/Patriots remain at Bundy Ranch?

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    4. #0-40 left for motels in town by 8:30 PM Friday.
      About 5 remained to carry out the mission of protecting the Bundys, those mixed in with Militia. Those colors didn't run -- mission ready.

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    5. That #0 is 30 with a capital 3

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  3. I LOL'd with your first sentence, then you frightened me with the rest and the pic of the poor skinned bastard.

    The key is like you said. Don't get caught. If getting caught is inevitable, save the last round for yourself.

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    1. The first line was written just for you. ;)

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  4. Ah the drone strike. Dear wanna be tyrant rulers, how did all that shit work for you in Afghanistan? Bunch of drunk paddy's took down the Union Jack with some primitive shite didn't they? Drone the Bundy ranch and that will be a dinner bell to some of these fine folks you taught so well. Good luck with that.

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    1. Yeah, I'm thinking a drone strike would result in every politician, LEO and bureaucrat across the country immediately becoming unsafe. Indiscriminate targeting into a household of people over an unpaid bill, even with "Domestic Terrorists" camped out in the yard, releases the targeting safeties on all Regime functionaries.

      But I'm just spitballin'...

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    2. Me and my homies already have our targets picked. Our homework is done, time for schooling the regime.

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  5. An Ally sends: What if your team had a plan in place for that...

    What if you had a place set up that whoever was captured could tell them that's where you are holed up after of course a little bit interrogation...

    You could set up the site in a way that they would be in a kill zone even before they got to the site...

    Another thought would be is to definitely have Intel on who is operating in your area and know where their family's are holed up so if one of you is captured then you could go get a bargaining chip...

    I don't really like the idea of targeting family's but when your fighting evil you have to use whatever you have at your disposal to help good win...I think everybody should have a plan for the worst case scenario so at least if it happens everyone knows what to do...

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  6. An additional consideration: What if "Bubba" is your son?

    Many Patriots like to speak with a cavalier disposition. I hope behind that public image they are prepared for the ugly realities this sort of action will bring to every home.

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    1. what if "Bubba" is your son / daughter / mother / father / grand+any-of-the-above / husband / wife / girlfriend / husband

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  7. vg

    will post monday

    graphic is excellent

    blasts through normalcy bias effectively

    ca
    wrsa

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  8. Now that the Laughlin River Run is over, the ATF and FBI can turn their attention to the Bundys.

    Yes, there was a huge gathering of Feds in Las Vegas, but they weren't there for the Bundy family -- at that time. They were more worried about the bikers gathering in Laughlin.

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  9. I do not fear death, I fear dying...
    He Who Leads the Charge
    http://www.outpost-of-freedom.com/blog/?p=732

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  10. Another question I have thought about since I read it a while back on a fiction site, where the roles are kind of reversed.

    "Hypothetical: you walk into a room. Your buddy is on the phone, giving up an operation. They have his kids. He’s trying to lie so they won’t hurt the kids but they won’t catch you either."

    What do you do in this situation? I've thought about it and I can't see a good answer other than hoping the intel guys on your side know where the kids are at, so you can try to pull off a rescue.

    Easy to say the "work alone" line but you wouldn't be very effective in general doing that.

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  11. I am alone. I am no longer frightened. I am resigned. I am un-compromisable. Is that even a word? Regardless, the time comes to catch me you have to catch ME. Period. There is no workaround for the singular man. How many of us can they afford to devote resources to?

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  12. "And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor."

    It's risky guys and gals. No doubt about it. This is a legitimate question and one you need to answer for yourself prior to the metal hitting the meat.

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  13. I went through E&E at Ft. Schofield in Hawaii while in the Marines. The Army dudes that conducted the drill were allowed to beat the crap out of us{ to a point }
    which was meant to give us the incentive to escape, and not get caught, and these guys were on the same team as us, so Yeh, don't get caught
    it will get uglier then you can possibly imagine. I say take out as many as you can, and if you can't escape make sure they pay the toll...Ooh Rah

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