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Saturday, April 26, 2014

From Susan Duclos: It Begins… ‘I Won’t Kill Or Die For This’


Let us hope this soldier's sentiment is widely shared and strong enough that he is willing to simply walk away.

Here's the link.

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10 comments:

  1. What a bad joke. The US pledged to defend the Ukraine in return for their destruction of nuclear weapons. Whether you agree with this or not, the time for questioning this was when this pledge was made.

    So our good is worthless. Good to know, all our allies will realize our word is so much dross.

    And those of you who hold this view, well you're all as golden as the Kerry who threw "his medals" over the White House fence.

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    1. Anon: I'm not sure who you are condemning - the guys who refuse to fight now, the guys who made the original defense agreement, or...?

      The word of American politicians has been shit for generations, long before Ukraine was promised anything. Do you think soldiers today should kill and die for stupid promises made 20 years ago by corrupt American politicians?

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    2. The USA NEVER promised military aid to Ukraine, Anon should look it up before making such comments.
      The Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances provided for 6 things:

      Respect Ukrainian independence and sovereignty within its existing borders.
      Refrain from the threat or use of force against Ukraine.
      Refrain from using economic pressure on Ukraine in order to influence its politics.
      Seek United Nations Security Council action if nuclear weapons are used against Ukraine.
      Refrain from the use of nuclear arms against Ukraine.
      Consult with one another if questions arise regarding these commitments.

      I agree with the soldier, lets MYOB!

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  2. I doubt you can argue that the word of US politicians has been shit for generations, not even in recent memory. Bush was punctilious at honoring any promise, for example going back to the UN repeatedly before invading Iraq, etc. Giving speeches with full disclosure of any new policy direction. Obozo, needless to say, has been the exact opposite. Clinton would hide behind verbal solecisms. Face it, it's the party of slavery / segregation / Jim Crow / & vast layers of lies beneath all they say, and vast layers of corruption beneath all they do, the Democrats. That is who people shouldn't trust, and outside the USA more & more people are realizing the American national socialists at the Democratic Party who lie & cheat & dissemble & betray allies & nurture enemies, ad nauseam.

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  3. The Ukraine is none of our business and we should pray and hope that the mindset this soldier has spreads amongst our armed forces like a wind-driven August wildfire in the tall grass. The gluttonous western banksters covet the Ukraine due to its geographical location and its political importance, and in particular care about the demographically and Russian speaking east and southeast sectors because what industrial riches the Ukraine has exist there. All "we" would be doing is fighting and dying for rich bastards without any conscience and on a battlefield we do not belong.

    IT'S THEIR DIRT! LEAVE THEM ALONE!

    Far better yet is that "We" (George Bush I and Company) promised the the Russians that if they allowed the reunification of Germany and did not stand in the way of the separation of the other former Soviet Republics, that NATO would never move to the east. Further, "We" promised that we would help them create a "market economy."

    We lied and we are still lying. "We" are lying, thieving, mass-murdering thieves. "We" instantly began a move east with NATO and "We" sent in The Harvard Group, the "Chicago Boys" and some of our big Eastern Banks and economically raped Russia and in the process created the Oligarchs - all of whom were non-ethnic Russians, just as the Oligarchs "we" have here are not of western European heritage nor are they "Christian." Damn! Is it any wonder that between the cultural filth we export and that we economically screwed them up one side and down the other, causing massive poverty and starvation that they hate our guts? And by the way, as our Oligarchs and their Oligarchs lined and our continue to line their pockets with hundreds of billions while the common man suffered and suffers, did any of you benefit? The hell you did and the hell you will. All they want us for is cannon-fodder so they can steal more, more, more. Wake the hell up!

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  4. The USA NEVER gave a promise of military aid to Ukraine, The Budapest Memorandum provided for 6 things:
    Respect Ukrainian independence and sovereignty within its existing borders.
    Refrain from the threat or use of force against Ukraine.
    Refrain from using economic pressure on Ukraine in order to influence its politics.
    Seek United Nations Security Council action if nuclear weapons are used against Ukraine.
    Refrain from the use of nuclear arms against Ukraine.
    Consult with one another if questions arise regarding these commitments.

    So I agree with the soldier, we need to MYOB.

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  5. Research North Korean partisans, 1953; Hmongs, Laos, Nungs and other Montangards in 1975; Kurds in 1992.

    I love my country. But my government disgusts me.

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  6. You need not go to those lengths, America lied to it's armed forces,
    left them to their fate in Korea, Vietnam, and I might add Benghazi.

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