Enemies of Liberty are ruthless. To own your Liberty, you'd better come harder than your enemies..

Sunday, July 30, 2017

RE-POST: Gut Check, please...


I posted this about 4 years ago.  I'm re-posting now so you can grasp just how weak-kneed the silliest circle-jerkers in the 'Liberty blogosphere' are as they continue to remain in the safety of blog posts.  They will never move to contact.  All talk.  Of course, they still rant and rave about their heroics that will come - one day.  Meh.

btw - I don't offer the nooses online any longer.  But if you need one tied, send me the rope and I'll return it to you, ready for your next caper... 

~~

So, I made a noose and hot-branded it with the III.  It is available on the right side of the blog.  I hope people will help support III projects by buying a few and using them at your next 2A rally, Tea Party event, or other public protest - personally I think it speaks better than any sign you could carry at a protest.  (Proceeds go to furthering III projects) 

What happened next was very interesting.  Some men got it.  Others, however, immediately began pulling Robespierre and the Reign of Terror out of their arses.  Oh yes, that is very, very interesting.

Let's start at the beginning: Tories were bad.  They are the same breed as those Marxist meddling f*cktards of today who I call Enemies of Liberty, for they not only advocate infringements of your Liberty, but take actions (including voting) to physically infringe your Natural Rights, either directly or via proxy.  They are Bad People.

In America, hanging Enemies of Liberty is a time-honored remedy for handling Bad People.

A man named Charles Lynch started hanging people for Tory acts during the Revolution.  He understood that when vermin insist on being in your life, you are morally entitled to be rid of that vermin.  You are under no moral obligation to tolerate a man who seeks your subjugation.  Most of us, myself included, would hold that lynching (or other fatal remedies) are not acceptable as first recourse.  I hold that you must warn Bad People to stop.  You are only obligated to use your words one time.  If they insist, then you should try to run them off.  If they continue to insist, under the corn they go.

Being a Tory during and after the Revolution was a bad life choice.  Many were stripped of their property and allowed to leave the country.  Many went to Canada and the Caribbean.  Some were tarred and feathered.  Some were beaten to death.  Some were hung.  Some were shot.  Interfering with the Natural Rights of a man is serious business, as my uncle would say.  Some of us take that sh*t at face value, and do not appreciate it.  If you behave in such a manner, please don't be shocked when you get back-fisted or killed for your meddling.

Anyway - some people have started wetting their panties because I tied a noose and branded it with the III.  "Too far!" they seem to posit.  Many jumped immediately to Robespierre and drawing similarities to the French Revolution and Reign of Terror.  Now in some cases I understand - some of these people jumped there because they have been told that Kerodin likes to advocate murdering puppies, unicorns, babies, baby unicorns, innocent women and others.  Of course that is silly.  But some other people seem to be sincere in their opinion that a noose sends the wrong message.

Yet, most of these same people type - incessantly - on our blogs about how they will blast holes in any Stack that comes to their house and how politicians deserve to be hung from lamp posts in DC.

Hypocrisy much?

First order of business: Regardless of how tough your fellow Patriots posture online about being there "...when SHTF...", anyone who starts hitting the brakes when they see a PICTURE of a noose should probably make your B list of likely allies.  The odds they will actually nut-up and show-up on D-Day are minimal.  Second order of business: Faced with the outcry of "Foul!" from inside the Patriot Community over the PICTURE of a noose is a clue that you should probably adjust your math downward when considering how many people are serious about picking up a rifle and doing the work of Liberty Restoration, and those who will find a reason they can't be there on that day.  (I'd like to be there, guys - but it's laundry day and my kid is studying for SAT's, and I need to help!)

At the risk of really upsetting some folks: Robespierre wasn't wrong in this: Killing political enemies, if those enemies are genuinely Enemies of Liberty, is not a moral crime.  Sorry to any weak-kneed "Patriots" reading this, but our very birth as a nation was predicated on that premise.  The King's Men who actively worked to impose the King's infringements upon Colonial Liberty had to go, one way or another.  Our Founders asked them to stop.  Then they told them to stop.  Then they pushed and skirmished.  Then - they killed them.

Reality is a bitch if you don't have the stomach to cut through your romantic revisionist delusions.

Do you even know what human blood smells like when you get it on your hands from another person?  Freedom isn't free.  It is usually messy.  It smells.  You may vomit.  You may tremble uncontrollably.  It isn't sanitary, and it surely isn't the way Hollywood would have you believe.

You make men who intend to enslave you stop their behavior, leave, or you kill them.

By any means necessary.

You commit no malum in se crimes against genuine innocents, to protect your Soul.

But you either make your enemies stop, leave, or dead...

...or you bend knee to them.

There is no middle ground.  Hand-wringers please self-identify and find a bench to sit this one out.  Real men have work to do.

Kerodin
III

Saturday, July 29, 2017

Happy Anniversary

14 years married.  15 1/2 together.

The best years of my life, because you are my wife.

Happy Anniversary, HK.

Friday, July 28, 2017

Greg Burleson: Life in Prison for Facebook Posts – Bunkerville

This is one of the reasons why punks and pussies like Daffy Dodge publicly assault and insult the brave men and women who dare claim the title of 'Militiaman' - and instead invoke milquetoast labels such as 'Survivalist'.

Because they do not have the spine to stand in Harm's Way.  They will never risk their .gov servitude and enrichments for Liberty or Freedom.  Without their .gov paychecks and welfare checks, the vast majority of online 'Patriots' couldn't feed themselves, much less stand for principles they have already betrayed openly and publicly.

Pig Farmers, fake 'Patriots' like Daffy and everyone else living on Welfare Lane all suckle their daily nourishment - literally - from the .gov tit - tit that is filled with the coerced and stolen money from real Americans.  These people will never truly stand and challenge the hand that feeds them.  

Here's the piece on Burleson.

"If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen."





Is Trump Entering a Kill Box?

Every enemy of Trump is going to be dropping the dime on him to Mueller. Moreover, there is no history of special counsels being appointed and applauded by the press, who went home without taking scalps.

Trump understands this. Reports of his frustration and rage suggest that he knows he has been maneuvered, partly by his own mistakes, into a kill box from which there may be no bloodless exit.

More here.

One of my recurring failings in life is an unjustified confidence in the base decency of Man.  I keep expecting it to reveal itself - somewhere.  

In the Mueller investigation, which should already be over with a report to Congress that there was no 'collusion', we see an ever-expanding scope of inquiry.  We are watching the long-held understanding that '...if they want you, they will find something and get you...'  - the Mueller Team is now in hunt mode to find anything for a single purpose - make President Trump impotent, by any means necessary.

We are watching the American version of the modern Coup.

Even if the President 'survives' and avoids impeachment, his ability to accomplish his campaign goals is no longer feasible.  The 'Establishment' won't even repeal ObamaCare - an act in their own political self-interests - because doing so would empower the President. They will not fund the wall beyond token measures.  They are waiting for the next election, when even if Trump/Pence win, the Dem wing of the Establishment will take the House or Senate to finalize the obstructionist goal of the swamp.

The only question remaining: How will America First Patriots respond to the undeniable, fully-on-display reality that the ballot box has been stolen from them by evil men who mean to be Masters...

Thursday, July 20, 2017

Oregon Patriots should burn their Government to the ground...

Here.

They are not the only Patriots who should do so - but they are certainly occupying the moral high ground.

Ha! 'TOR is safe! Also - Use Offshore email to fool the Feds!" And more Stupid...

The Tor network, which anonymizes web traffic, was developed for persecuted activists, charitable groups and journalists to communicate without fear of reprisal from oppressive governments. 

Really, it says so.  It must be true.  Here's the link.  So, you too can cruise the dark web in complete freedom and anonymity.  This is called creative marketing aimed at The Stupid among us all.

TOR was created by the US Naval Research Lab and further developed by DARPA - to protect US Intel Comms.  If you do not believe the manufacturer has backdoors, you really should not breed.  Offshore email servers are not invisible to US .Gov eyes.  While USG would never need to be so crude - put a pistol to the head of an 'offshore' email service, or put a pistol in his daughter's mouth - he'll surrender every key to the kingdom.

Everything digital is theirs if they want it.  

Silly rabbits.

Wednesday, July 19, 2017

Repeal Obstructionists...


'Look, he wants to remain a Senator, doesn't he?'

The media is spinning that President Trump's 'joke' was a veiled threat.

The President should drop the veil and the smiles and put every obstructionist R in Washington on full alert with a simple ultimatum: "Vote for ObamaCare repeal, fund the wall, cut taxes - and get it done before Thanksgiving.  Anyone not pulling his weight will face active and aggressive hostility from the RNC next election cycle - we will bury your campaigns and make certain you do not return to DC."

Here's the link.

Tuesday, July 18, 2017

Obstructionist Congress

The simple reason President Trump's campaign promises are not being kept is because the Republicans in Congress do not want him to succeed or his promises to be kept.

It is that simple.

Too many Republicans fall into the category of Deep State/Establishment Enemies of Liberty.

All the rabble-rousing talk over the last 7 years that Republicans would demolish ObamaCare has been proved to be simply hyperbole.  Establishment Republicans LIKE bigger government.  When push comes to shove, they have PROVEN they will stall, obfuscate and obstruct any serious dismantling of .Gov power.

Two wings of the same bird, as we have all known for a long time.

But now they are on full display as power-hungry men who mean to be Masters.

They will happily lose control of the House and Senate in 2018 so they can throw up their hands and blame the 'scandals' of the Trump presidency for their inability to make 'meaningful reform' - while the Dems take the spotlight of the obstructionist party.

President Trump is being hog-tied by the Establishment.  Unless a serious, seismic shift occurs in the next 120 days, the Dems will take either (perhaps both) the House and Senate, and the coup against President Trump will be complete.  He'll be a 1-term president, and history (written by the victorious Establishment) will brand him and his supporters, and their policies and beliefs, as failures.

Counsel to the President: Ask Pence for his resignation, and appoint Mattis to VP.  He's the one person in Washington the Establishment fears more than President Trump - they'll never impeach if Mattis is next in line.

Then call out every Establishment PoS from the Rose Garden.  Tell America how they have stalled and obstructed.  Go down swinging.  Refuse to sign ANYTHING they send - budgets included.  Force them to over-ride all your vetoes.  If President Trump can serve any purpose at all - he can force every PoS Establishmentarian to step into the light.

Here's the link.

Bill of Rights Preamble - '...declaratory and restrictive...'

THE Conventions of a number of the States having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best insure the beneficent ends of its institution

RESOLVED by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, two thirds of both Houses concurring, that the following Articles be proposed to the Legislatures of the several States, as Amendments to the Constitution of the United States, all or any of which Articles, when ratified by three fourths of the said Legislatures, to be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of the said Constitution; viz.:

ARTICLES in addition to, and Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America, proposed by Congress, and ratified by the Legislatures of the several States, pursuant to the fifth Article of the original Constitution.

~~

The road map for personal Liberty was written and accepted by our Founders and Framers, and ratified by our Founding generation.  They did their part - they fought, bled and died to put the USS America on the proper course.  As Franklin warned - '...if you can keep it.'

Not one single 'brilliant thinker' in the Liberty blogosphere has come close to offering a better path forward.  The 'only' problem with the USC and BoR is that Patriots have failed to reprimand the men and women who dare to disrespect the boundaries.  This has been true since Jefferson and Washington.  It is compounded now by hundreds of years of ill-maintenance.

If 'We the People' are indeed the ultimate arbiters of what is - and is not - Constitutional, then we'd better start playing our role.  If we do not enforce the rules against the rule-breakers - who will?

Saturday, July 15, 2017

Re-Post: They will kill you for a Big Gulp - count on it...


**Note 7/15/2017**  A reader posted this today out on the net, so I figured I'd re-post it here since it is even more relevant today than when originally posted.  In the Age of Trump the Leftists are feeling pressure to spool-up their power grabs, and are using violence and coercion to bully people to bow to their whims.  Threepers have been meeting the Anarchists and Antifa fcuks across the nation and will continue to do so.  The longer President Trump is able to remain in office, the more violent the Left will become - the more heavy-handed, the more they will use violence to get their way - from street violence to bureaucratic and administrative violence.

Here's the original piece:

From time to time I am asked (usually by new readers) why I don't cover more of the day-to-day events that impact the Liberty sphere.

We are beyond the Event Horizon.  The Rubicon has been crossed.  It's on, right now.

The Enemies of Liberty have engaged and now only the big questions, the big events, matter.

Everything else is Sparklies.  All else are arrows that will not kill you, so they should be dismissed.

If you are waiting for your suburb to look like a Mad Max movie before you will accept that the fight is already begun, you'll miss the entire show.  This war for Liberty will be just like the two primary wars before it - RevWarI and RevWarII (aka the Civil War or the War between the States). 

Only a small percentage of Americans will ever pick up a weapon to fight in this war, just like before.  Most will stay at home, and never even lose cable.

Commerce will continue, just like in our other wars.  There will be disruptions and shortages, there will be pockets of starvation and ruin, but 90% of your fellow Americans will not ever pick up a weapon for either side in this fight.  And there will be those who make fortunes while others fight in the streets for food scraps, for principles, and all the other reasons men fight.

If you don't recognize that you are already in the fight, I can't help you.  If you don't recognize that States moving to ban nearly all 2A is an attack, I can't help you.  If you don't realize that .Gov buying all of the fighting ammo in the country is an attack, I can't help you.  And if you don't understand why your fellow Americans cleared out the entire national retail and wholesale inventory of fighting weapons, ammo and mags in about 30 days after Sandy Hook, I simply can't help you.

Why comment on the headline today that the Governor of Massachusetts will fine and/or imprison you for up to a year for driving your vehicle in a snow storm?  Either you understand which side of the Liberty line that act is on, or you don't.  Why comment on the Mayor of NYC banning you from buying a Big Gulp if you want a Big Gulp?  If you don't already know which side of the Liberty/Slavery line that act is on, I can't help you. 

And these are the same people who want you disarmed.  If you are still not getting to "Huh!  The fight is already on!" then you are behind the curve of many, many millions of Americans who have bought all the guns, bullets and magazines you will need to defend yourself from the people who will imprison or kill you for a Big Gulp.

"Ha!  They won't kill you for a Big Gulp!"

Really?  Follow this, it is simple:  You as a store owner decide to sell Big Gulp-sized soda in defiance of the Mayor.  What happens?  You get a letter in the mail, probably a cease & desist, maybe accompanied by a fine.  What if you refuse to pay the fine?  Then more letters go out, higher fines, and eventually a court date.  What if you don't show?  Men with guns come to get you.  What if you go to court, lose, and are ordered to stop selling big drinks - you either comply, or continue.  If you defy the Judge, men with guns will come to get you.

When the men with guns come to get you, you have few options - do as they say, or have your own gun - but either way, men with guns are now hunting you for selling a Big Gulp.

If you do not see that is the America that has evolved, I can't help you.

From the amount of salt in your diet to soda size to how long your grass may be to whether or not you can plant tomatoes in your front yard, to every other facet of daily life, there are Men who mean to be your Master, and if you defy them then more men with guns will come for you.  They will imprison you, or kill you.  Even if you win the first firefight, you are hunted for the rest of your life.

For a Big Gulp.  Or for driving your car in the snow when you have been told not to do so.

If you can't see that the fight has already begun, I can't help you.

Don't waste your time on the headlines of the day.  Men mean to have you bend knee or die.  Some of those men are your neighbors.  If you mean to bend knee, so be it.  You are free to do what you wish, even if you choose to be a slave.  But here's a little Samuel Adams for you:  "If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen."

That last part - you'd better pay attention.  Some folks won't forget where you stood in the fight.

And in respect to the scrappy cat photo I included at the top of this post, I'll leave you with William Lloyd Garrison: With reasonable men, I will reason; with humane men I will plead; but to tyrants I will give no quarter, nor waste arguments where they will certainly be lost.

And Jefferson on Tyrants: Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God

If you don't understand, I can't help you.  It is simply too late...

Wednesday, July 12, 2017

Oregon Warning: SB719A

Here.

Any Questions?

Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution is widely cited as being an exhaustive list of Congressional power. But, in reality, there are a total of thirty (up to 35, depending on how they’re counted) Congressional powers that are listed throughout the document. Find them here:
·         To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
·         To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;
·         To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;
·         To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;
·         To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;
·         To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;
·         To establish Post Offices and post Roads;
·         To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;
·         To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;
·         To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;
·         To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;
·         To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;
·         To provide and maintain a Navy;
·         To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;
·         To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;
·         To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;
·         To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings; And
·         To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.
·         No State shall, without the Consent of the Congress, lay any Imposts or Duties on Imports or Exports, except what may be absolutely necessary for executing it’s inspection Laws:and the net Produce of all Duties and Imposts, laid by any State on Imports or Exports, shall be for the Use of the Treasury of the United States; and all such Laws shall be subject to the Revision and Controul of the Congress.
·         The Congress may determine the Time of chusing the Electors, and the Day on which they shall give their Votes; which Day shall be the same throughout the United States.
·         In Case of the Removal of the President from Office, or of his Death, Resignation, or Inability to discharge the Powers and Duties of the said Office, the Same shall devolve on the Vice President, and the Congress may by Law provide for the Case of Removal, Death, Resignation or Inability, both of the President and Vice President, declaring what Officer shall then act as President, and such Officer shall act accordingly, until the Disability be removed, or a President shall be elected.
·         The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish.
·         The Trial of all Crimes, except in Cases of Impeachment, shall be by Jury; and such Trial shall be held in the State where the said Crimes shall have been committed; but when not committed within any State, the Trial shall be at such Place or Places as the Congress may by Law have directed.
·         The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.
·         Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records, and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.
·         New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union;
·         The Congress shall have Power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States; and nothing in this Constitution shall be so construed as to Prejudice any Claims of the United States, or of any particular State.
·         The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress
·         The House of Representatives shall chuse their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment…
The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.

·         The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.

Source: TAC

Any law beyond the scope outlined above is void...

Tuesday, July 11, 2017

Alone & Righteous - better than the alternatives, always...

Here's the piece.

Be willing to stand alone, Patriots.  

Most Americans will accept what is easy, versus what is Right.

Once you surrender to convenience at the sake of Correctness and Justice, you lose.

Once you surrender your Soul, all is lost.  

It's the last four on the list that trip-up most Americans today:

Thou shalt not commit adultery
Thou shalt not steal
Thou shalt not bear false witness

Thou shalt not covet

If you do not take responsibility for your Soul, who will?  

The prudent Human Being keeps an eye out for the Old Testament God...

Leftists vs. the Redskins



But where the left is wrong is in trying to get government to force the team to dump their name, and that is where the left is anti-American in its basic ideology. Freedom is great when they want to exercise it themselves, but when it comes to things liberals don’t like they believe government should step in and quash the rights of any who oppose them. 

Interesting that it is over the name of a sports team that the Leftist machine of tyranny is so easily on display.

Here's the piece.

Saturday, July 8, 2017

Oath: A very serious word...

oath
ōTH/
noun
  1. 1.
    a solemn promise, often invoking a divine witness, regarding one's future action or behavior.

In the Patriot community we hear a lot about oaths and vows.  We hear a lot of people calling one another 'my brother', with the stated or implied underlying oath to die in battle with them or for them on behalf of Liberty.

Many of us have taken several oaths in our lives.  When we signed-up for the services is the one most Patriots refer to when in discussions on FB and blogs.

Now consider: How many of your 'brothers' have broken oaths?  Not merely promises - but oaths in which God was asked to bear witness.  For instance: How many divorces does your 'brother' or 'sister' - or do you - have?  How many times has he or she, or you, cheated outside the marriage?  How many times have you seen your 'brother' or 'sister' - or yourself - make a pass at a married person, inviting and inciting that person to break their own vows?

In my world, everyone is entitled to one divorce without being judged too harshly.  Maybe the ex turned out to be batshit crazy, or a cheater, or the two of you simply found out after the initial sex-haze cleared that you weren't a good fit.  Whatever.  The point is this: Most people have failed in their oaths because they took a bad decision. They made an oath that should have never been made. Choose wisely.

Once is a mistake.  More than once is a pattern.

If your 'brother' has a pattern of broken oaths, broken promises, or thinks bedding married women is sport that carries no moral burden for him - your 'brother' is not a good person.  

Why would you ever believe any oath or promise he offers you?

Liberty is only suited for a just and moral people.  Everyone else is part of the problem.

Think about it...

Second Battle of Gettysburg

On July 1 Patriots showed at Gettysburg on rumors that local Antifa were going to desecrate the battlefield.

A few dozen Patriots showed, including some Threepers.

No Antifa showed.

One Patriot still managed to get himself shot in the leg (NOT a Threeper).

Here's the story.

Fcuk me...

Saturday, July 1, 2017

For Conor & his Daddy

The entire bit is great, but it becomes Conor-specific at about 2:15...