tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4236695365244926782.post4357300877326301265..comments2023-09-16T03:06:44.703-07:00Comments on III Percent: Political Reality 101Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4236695365244926782.post-86207347447703042682013-08-20T13:33:20.509-07:002013-08-20T13:33:20.509-07:00The concept of Jefferson's Rightful Liberty wi...The concept of Jefferson's Rightful Liberty will be outlined and discussed at Brock's Fall PATCON by Hans Mentha.David DeGerolamohttp://ncrenegade.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4236695365244926782.post-68019778846416799092013-08-19T20:07:15.687-07:002013-08-19T20:07:15.687-07:00Excellent.Excellent.Brock Townsendhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11404173139501539265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4236695365244926782.post-81437114351808787752013-08-19T11:35:43.695-07:002013-08-19T11:35:43.695-07:00You do come up with great replies; I was right abo...You do come up with great replies; I was right about that too!<br /><br />Argue with commie-libs? Why? What's the saying..."Behind every socialist is a totalitarian screaming to come out," or something like that. I don't argue with thugs, NOT EVER.<br /><br />I argue with thinking people who are inevitably working with false premises, and I try to correct those false premises. That's all.<br /><br />Yes, it's YOUR choice to desire a Constitutional Republic. You know my position on that, cuz it's the same as with the Citadel. Go for it, and I readily acknowledge that they're admirable principles and all that. Limited government, trial by jury, inalienable rights...who wouldn't like that stuff?<br /><br />The thing is, I live on THIS Earth at THIS time, and I'm sick and tired of seeing good people be snookered, falling for the same ol', same ol'. Nearly everyone's the same...they just wanna live, be with their friends and families, have a blast every so often, and enjoy life.<br /><br />So I try to point out where the snookering happens, the false premises that lead good people to engage in bad acts anyway. And the root of it all, is inevitably the selfishness/altruism, individualism/collectivism scam. Almost nobody wants to be a thug, so a bunch of worthless intellectuals have convinced them--over thousands of years, no less--that there's some greater "reason" that they ought to be thugs. And what they never realized, and still don't, is that they're killing THEMSELVES over the matter, not just their supposed enemies.<br /><br />That's all. I think suicide is about the most desperate, most evil act that a functional human being can engage...and I'm just trying to stop it, that's all. Or at least trying to stop it among people who don't know that they're doing it. I'm for LIFE, not death. Human life is about BUILDING, not destroying.<br /><br />But you knew all that anyway. Me, I just wanna live my life the way I choose, and see everyone else do the same, however the hell they choose. Plus, I WANT customers!<br /><br />Yep, the thugs gotta be stopped, but turning oneself into a collectivist thug ain't gonna do it. "You cannot rid the world of cannibals by eating them."<br /><br />So anyway...what sort of Constitutional Republic do you intend on having, that will allow for those zillions of freedomistas who want no part of it? If it's just by the small community, then it's the same as the Citadel...have it any ol' way you want. But if it's from the Atlantic to the Pacific...then Houston, you've got a problem.Jim Kleinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4236695365244926782.post-77464191060703182622013-08-19T09:17:25.651-07:002013-08-19T09:17:25.651-07:00JK: No, it isn't directed at any single person...JK: No, it isn't directed at any single person who visits (I'd have no problem naming names) - this notion came to me during a recent conversation and I let it marinate. <br /><br />Please read the entire sentence and give "all" of the words equal value: <i>"You do not have any right to change the system in place at the time you popped out of mommy, simply because you were born.</i><br /><br />You fixated on the first part of the sentence, and ignored the key words at the end - "...simply because you were born." If X is born into a system he doesn't like, he is one of about 7 BILLION other ants in the Human colony. He is NOT special by right of birth. If he wants to change something, ANYTHING, he is NOT entitled to his whims simply because he is 1 of 7 Billion others. He may seek change to secure his Natural Rights.<br /><br />The problem we have is that too many people think they are not only the smartest guy in the room, but the smartest guy in any room, ever. I have seen little evidence of the former and ZERO evidence of the latter.<br /><br />So, you demand your Natural Rights? Good! Now, go get them instead of arguing in a community filled with people who generally agree with you. Why pick nits here instead of going to HuffPo where there are actually minds to be changed that do not agree with ANYTHING you (or I) posit? <br /><br />When you finally come to the understanding that Reason will not work, that voting will not work, that you have been reduced to the same few remedies all of us have before us, then we'll have something to work with together. <br /><br />Regarding one of your final notes: I am not demanding that YOUR Natural Rights be implemented or secured in any manner, especially the Constitution, DoI, BoR. I am saying that I want MY Natural Rights secured through those mechanisms. You can go forth and seek any means you wish, but you (and noone else) has ANY right to kill my preferred system, a system that many of us think is the best on the table. <br /><br />You and I agree on the fundamental concept of "Rightful Liberty", regardless of how we may label it. Let's quit quibbling about the "how" of it and get to work imposing our will on those flippin' idiots at HuffPo, et al. ;)<br /><br />KKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17465944474238091234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4236695365244926782.post-35791871635046797032013-08-19T05:49:25.670-07:002013-08-19T05:49:25.670-07:00Ha...have anyone in mind? Just a few tidbits...
...Ha...have anyone in mind? Just a few tidbits...<br /><br />"You do not have any right to change the system in place at the time you popped out of mommy, simply because you were born."<br /><br />Really? So a commie Chinese, or Soviet or East German or whatever, didn't have the "right" to change the system? Do tell.<br /><br />BTW, did the Founders have such a right?<br /><br />"The system of governance, called republicanism, is supposed to be implemented through our Constitution."<br /><br />Oh, "supposed to." Sounds about right. If wishes were horseshit and horseshit were cookies, we'd all have plenty to eat.<br /><br />"You do not have the Right to demand anything more than your Natural Rights."<br /><br />Consider them demanded...that and nothing more. Hell, I'm not even REQUESTING anything more!<br /><br />So what's the problem? Why are YOU demanding more? <br /><br />Why do you write this of others, and not apply it to yourself? You're saying, "I demand my Natural Rights AND I demand they be implemented a particular way." Don't you get it? That's what the commie-libs are saying too. Your way might be a zillion times more sensible, but that's hardly the point.<br /><br />Read this line of yours again. Is it true for you, or not?Jim Kleinnoreply@blogger.com