tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4236695365244926782.post1779060412777373243..comments2023-09-16T03:06:44.703-07:00Comments on III Percent: The Office of SheriffUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4236695365244926782.post-64980720664349726722013-08-14T15:59:57.998-07:002013-08-14T15:59:57.998-07:00The foreigner does pay the tax - because he'll...The foreigner does pay the tax - because he'll have to compete on a price/quality basis with American producers. If he raises his prices, his products will sit on the shelves. However, if he lowers his prices and passes off the cost of the tax on his other customers (not in the American market) that's on him, and them.<br /><br />If the importer does raise his price, then it is a "choice" for the American consumer - buy the import and eat the higher cost, or buy the widget that is produced domestically, that employees Americans.Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17465944474238091234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4236695365244926782.post-47735734488762170112013-08-14T15:04:36.121-07:002013-08-14T15:04:36.121-07:00But the "foreigner" doesn't pay the ...But the "foreigner" doesn't pay the "tax"- only the American who ends up buying it pays. Those import "taxes" hurt you and me; not the importer. They end up driving up all prices and lowering all quality. And they feed Leviathan.<br /><br />In fact, it is always only the little guy who ends up paying any "tax"- whether he wants to be "serviced" good and hard by .gov, or not.Kent McManigalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05005964583189815410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4236695365244926782.post-56478244031953414312013-08-14T14:39:31.202-07:002013-08-14T14:39:31.202-07:00Principles suck, sometimes ;) But when they get i...Principles suck, sometimes ;) But when they get in our way, we are defined by whether or not we violate them for personal gain or expediency.<br /><br />I do disagree slightly about taxation - and it may actually be your nuanced position, not sure: I have a problem with direct taxation, but not on imported goods. I look at taxing imports the same as I look at charging an advertiser - if an advertiser wants to rent space in my publication to have access to my audience, he needs to pay a fee. Same-same for the foreigner who wants to sell to the American market - he can pay for some maintenance/.gov functions.<br /><br />KKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17465944474238091234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4236695365244926782.post-64823021554730942062013-08-14T14:20:59.861-07:002013-08-14T14:20:59.861-07:00Which is why I could never do it under such condit...Which is why I could never do it under such conditions with a clear conscience if it weren't possible to return the confiscated property/money to the unwilling individual from whom it was taken. If one person is being "taxed" to pay me against his will, that is theft. It is no more wrong to rob a million people than to rob that one guy.<br />I can't be a part of that and still pretend to be on the side opposing theft. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H585nogZWpQ" rel="nofollow">Taxation is still, and always will be, theft</a>- no matter how noble your uses of that money may be, nor how "necessary" people believe it is. For me, as sheriff or anything else, to say that theft is OK- and participate in it until the "law" admits it isn't- would just be me doing the exact same things that anti-gun bigots say about their "laws".<br /><br />Which just means I am not cut out for such a "job" in the current society, as convinced as I am that I could do it well and justly.Kent McManigalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05005964583189815410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4236695365244926782.post-1014745626049780242013-08-14T13:29:45.494-07:002013-08-14T13:29:45.494-07:00Kent: There is a flip side to the renumeration iss...Kent: There is a flip side to the renumeration issue.<br /><br />1) Legal: There are probably laws in place that determine how the Sheriff is paid. You could always give the money to charity, but you'll never stop the local population from being taxed for your service.<br /><br />2) Pragmatic: If 1,000 people ask you to do a legitimate job for them, it is not only right and proper for them to chip in and pay you, it is also very prudent. If you are Sheriff, a position with serious responsibility, and you have to worry from week to week how your family will eat (because you may not be independently wealthy and working a day job is not acceptable) then you will have split attention and performance in the assigned task will suffer. In this case, your ability to protect their interests will suffer.<br /><br />If they have a problem paying the tax for Sheriff, they can work on the legislative body to change the law, or they can leave.<br /><br />Just thoughts...<br /><br />KKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17465944474238091234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4236695365244926782.post-87060157419396437672013-08-14T13:23:20.074-07:002013-08-14T13:23:20.074-07:00One thing I have thought of as a way to get paid f...One thing I have thought of as a way to get paid for the sheriff job without relying on "taxation" is a monthly subscription service. If a person doesn't want to subscribe I won't bother with their petty problems. In other words, he can handle things like trespassing problems or minor theft on his own (which everyone should probably be doing anyway)- don't bother calling me. That doesn't mean I wouldn't show up at his door to try to facilitate justice if he's the violator of someone else, though. Nor would I turn my back if he was in mortal danger because of some aggression aimed at him or his family. (In which case I might present him with a bill for "services rendered" after the fact.) <br /><br />Of course, with a universally armed population, there probably would be very little "minor stuff" anyway.<br /><br />Not only are there "more strong good people than strong evil people", but it is overwhelmingly so in most areas. It's just that the good people have been brainwashed into handing their responsibility over to others who are said to be "professionals". Yeah, well, those "professionals" were only hired in the first place to do a job that was too petty for most people. Like the garbage collector or whatever else most people would rather pay someone else to do. But then the hired hand decided he was "special" and that not only was it his full time job to do that which was beneath most people, but they were no longer allowed to do it on their own if they knew they didn't need him. When your hired hand gets that uppity, it's time to fire him and eliminate his job.Kent McManigalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05005964583189815410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4236695365244926782.post-61340123744913333322013-08-14T11:20:29.853-07:002013-08-14T11:20:29.853-07:00I would vote for you in a heartbeat...I would be h...I would vote for you in a heartbeat...I would be happy to supply meals and lodging for you for my part...I know what you mean about trusting other people with rightful liberty...People are scared of what real freedom looks like...People always say when I talk about liberty is that I am ensuing a place where only the strong survive and that evil will win out in the end...People don't seem to have the faith that there are more strong good people than strong evil people...I know I struggle with that also but am willing to go that route so that liberty at least has a shot of succeeding...linemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18180668439619161153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4236695365244926782.post-55486974448317352122013-08-13T09:47:05.810-07:002013-08-13T09:47:05.810-07:00I have been pondering this for a few days. I have...I have been pondering this for a few days. I have said in the past that I'd be willing to <a href="http://kentforliberty.com/jobs.html" rel="nofollow">take the job of sheriff</a>. I'm not sure how comfortable I'd be accepting a salary taken by force from my friends and neighbors, though. Well, no, I know exactly "how comfortable I'd be" with that: not at all. I'd have to work out a new way to be paid that was completely consensual and involved accepting no "federal funds" either.<br /><br />Another thing to consider- a potential sheriff won't come from the ranks of those of us who have made our position in support of Rightful Liberty clear. We'd be unelectable in all but the most unlikely of areas. Just imagine trying to get votes when you are on record acknowledging that all anti-gun "laws", prohibition, etc. are not only unconstitutional but wrong, and you will not ever enforce one of them.<br /><br />The voters around here are all too happy saying "freedom" as long as they don't have to actually see anyone else living it. They like Big Brother protecting them from the unpretty parts of Rightful Liberty that make them uncomfortable. And they refuse to notice that selling out the other guy for their own comfort is simply tightening the chains around their own necks.Kent McManigalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05005964583189815410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4236695365244926782.post-67112976438599524802013-08-11T06:04:34.862-07:002013-08-11T06:04:34.862-07:00We have a good Sheriff in our county. We can count...We have a good Sheriff in our county. We can count on him, and do.<br /><br />Bob<br />IIIidahobobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12857771751176894988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4236695365244926782.post-81370089091280614142013-08-10T22:51:58.386-07:002013-08-10T22:51:58.386-07:00JK: You sound dangerously anarchistic. ;)
There ...JK: You sound dangerously anarchistic. ;)<br /><br />There is only one quote from Lincoln worth using, and he was disingenuous when he used it:<br /><br /><i>We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.</i><br /><br />As to Bill's position that FedGov has always been Evil: I don't disagree. As I have said many times (including in this post) the Federalists seized power with Hamilton in Washington's ear, kept it completely until Jefferson took office, and even then they were already well-entrenched and burrowing deeper into the machinery of government, particularly in the Judiciary. <br /><br />Once Marbury happened there was only one solution to the Bad People who were abusing the Original Intent of the Constitution - 2A. And they didn't do it. They didn't push back until Sumter, and Lincoln won. Any chance of implementing the Constitution <i> as ratified and with Original Intent</i> was crushed under Lincoln's heel. Then the Bad People added a series of Amendments to solidify their position.<br /><br />We are the last generation of Americans who will ever have a shot at bringing Original Intent to life. If we succeed, we will NOT be the last generation that will have to fight to keep it. The battle between Good People and those who would be Masters is eternal.<br /><br />KKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17465944474238091234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4236695365244926782.post-13579369576030729792013-08-10T21:04:22.520-07:002013-08-10T21:04:22.520-07:00Did you see this history lesson, with at least one...Did you see this history lesson, with at least one cite going back to 1763?<br /><br />https://sanjacintocountyoutlaw.wordpress.com/2013/08/09/love-pats-from-uncle-sugar/<br /><br />I challenge you or anyone else to answer Bill's question...<br /><br />"How do you take back…what never actually existed?"<br /><br />The winning strategy for 3 card monte in New York is NOT, "Keep playing."Jim Kleinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4236695365244926782.post-46428136579492147992013-08-10T20:50:48.016-07:002013-08-10T20:50:48.016-07:00Good topic, Sam. I'll share some intel from my...Good topic, Sam. I'll share some intel from my AO in the interest of getting input and helping others in a similar situation. My county is three counties removed from Cook County, Illinois. Our sheriff is another corrupt politician, milking the system and abusing his office. His family and one other take turns holding the office and both milk it good whether "in power" or not. They're immune from being held accountable and they know it. <br /><br />During prohibition Al Capone liked this area both for a hideout away from Chicago and as a major source of supply for the booze he sold. Local cornfields supplied the whiskey and grains went into the beer. Stills were in many local garages/warehouses and all of this went on with the knowledge and consent of the sheriff, local government(s) and police. Local corruption runs deep, is quite profitable and goes waaaay back. <br /><br />The current fellow has his fingers in numerous pies that don't belong to him and has made it clear he'll do whatever the state tells him (specifically mentioning things like gun laws in a recent interview) and anyone having a problem with that can take it to court.<br /><br />Many benefit from the current system and opposition at the polls is nonexistent. Anyone running against in the past is either bought off or crushed. Have a nice business and want to lose it - maybe with some bogus legal problems on the side? Run for sheriff here and stick with it.<br /><br />If there's any good news, it's the fact that most of the deputies despise what they see. None of them are willing to throw away a career but would love to see honor and decency return to their department.<br /><br />That's the local situation off the top of my head. <br /><br />DanielAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4236695365244926782.post-61722773720723348622013-08-10T20:34:43.980-07:002013-08-10T20:34:43.980-07:00Right on.Right on.Brock Townsendhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11404173139501539265noreply@blogger.com